Data Points Podcast
A podcast about government and data.
Telling stories from practitioners and academics about how data affects communities and the lives of residents.

A podcast about government and data. Telling stories from practitioners and academics about how data affects communities and the lives of residents.
— How the role of city chief data officers is evolving, why generative AI is changing government work, and how data leaders can build capacity, trust, and better services.
— In this episode, Bonaguro reflects on her path from philosophy and mathematics to data leadership roles in San Francisco and California. She discusses how chief data officers can navigate bureaucracy, build trust across departments, and create practical data programs that solve real problems. She also explains why generative AI is reshaping government technology and what public sector data leaders need to do to build capacity, manage risk, and improve services.

Episodes
Episode #113 – AI, Data Leadership, and Trust in Government with former San Francisco and California data chief Joy Bonaguro
How the role of city chief data officers is evolving, why generative AI is changing government work, and how data leaders can build capacity, trust, and better services.
Episode #112 – Former NYC data chief Mike Flowers on AI, Trust, and the Future of City Data
Why cities need faster, smarter decision-making and why empathy, judgment, and trust still matter most in the age of AI.
Episode #111 – D.C. CDO Matt Sokol on the AI-Driven Future of City Government
Matt Sokol discusses why better data is the foundation for successful AI, smarter services, and public trust.
Episode #110 – Beyond Dashboards: How Boston’s CDO is Rethinking City Services
Boston’s Chief Research and Data Officer, Shin-pei Tsay, shares how cities can shift from analytics to impact by focusing on user experience, transparency, and practical AI use.
Episode #109 – How AI Is Redefining the Chief Data Officer Role, an interview with GovEx CDO-in-Residence Justin Elszasz
Justin Elszasz, former Chief Data Officer for Baltimore and GovEx advisor and CDO-in-Residence, shares what it takes to lead data strategy, navigate complexity, and guide responsible AI use in cities.
Episode #108 – Meet the CDOs: Melisa Breda on Trust and Responsibility in the Age of AI
Melisa Breda, former Chief Data Officer for Buenos Aires, and GovEx advisor and CDO-in-Residence, shares a candid look at what it takes to make data and AI trusted tools of government.
Episode #107 – Trust Through Results: Data, Evidence, and the Future of Public Service
esults for America CEO Michele Jolin and GovEx’s Oliver Wise discuss how governments can use evidence, data, and cross-sector partnerships to fund solutions that improve lives and rebuild public trust.
Episode #106 – From Vision to Impact: Lessons from GovEx’s First 10 Years
Beth Blauer and Oliver Wise reflect on the roots, risks, and real-world impact of building a data-first culture in government.
Episode #105 – From Potholes to Predictive Power: How One City Is Using AI to Stay Ahead
With support from the City Data Alliance AI Track, Luján de Cuyo embraced AI and shifted from reactive repairs to proactive service delivery.
Episode #104 – What’s Your AI IQ? How Cities Are Measuring and Making Progress
The AI Capacity Quiz is helping cities reflect, compare, and take confident steps forward



